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On November 11, 2011, john a. powell was interviewed by New Economic Perspectives at the University of Missouri - Kansas City School of Law about the financial crisis, America’s dual credit system, and the Occupy Wall Street movement. powell emphasized the importance of restructuring the country’s financial systems to be in service of the people; the salience of race in housing and banking; and the existence of four sectors: public, private, non-public/non-private, and corporate.