What if the most radical idea in the world is simply that everyone belongs?
In this episode of the If You Were in Charge podcast, host Sanam Naraghi Anderlini sits down with john a. powell for a wide-ranging discussion touching on his family upbringing, fears driving people to the right, popular defense of immigrants in Minnesota, public spaces as infrastructure for belonging, mental health, and more.
If You Were In Charge is a radical leadership podcast about people, power & possibilities, hosted by Sanam Naraghi Anderlini and Kavita Nandini Ramdas. From ICAN and ADA Productions.
Chapters:
- 00:00 "Can we have a world where we all win?"
- 00:28 Sanam and Kavita: a grandchild on the way, the World Cup and the UN
- 18:58 Interview: what othering actually means
- 19:45 john's story: othered by his own father at eleven
- 22:16 The Invisible Man and Sawubona: noticed but never seen
- 26:15 What belonging looks like: co-creation, not inclusion
- 33:37 Europe and the US compared
- 35:00 The alienated white male: the fear is real, the diagnosis is wrong
- 38:25 A radical idea that shouldn't be radical
- 39:47 Minnesota: when immigrants became neighbours
- 44:11 If you were in charge? "I'd give up being in charge"
- 45:53 From porches to patios: designing for belonging
- 48:21 "If I was Elon Musk I'd be MacKenzie Scott"
- 52:50 Not an optimist, not a pessimist: a possibilist
